June 2, 2008

No Means No

This brought tears to my eyes.

Steve Corbett:

This party is the Democratic Party and Saturday’s meeting of its pompous rules and bylaws committee did more to dampen support for the mainstream party than any Republican ever could.

The party elite told the protestors, by and large Democrats, that they would decide what is best for them.

The protestors explained that they were not slaves and would decide their lives for themselves. By that they meant that they would also decide the party’s future. By that they meant they just might quit.

“I didn’t quit my party,” one young woman later explained. “My party quit me.”

Without them, many analysts believe the Democrats cannot win the White House in November. Without them, Democrats will rally around a flawed candidate who will further divide the party into the haves and the have-nots. Without them, the party will go down in females, rather than in flames.

Men have aligned themselves with the protest as well.

I, too, stood in the rain.

[...]
What is known, though, is that many Hillary supporters, mostly women who have been loyal to the party all their lives, feel abandoned. Abused by a disloyal party whose leadership is made up mostly of men, they have finally had enough.

The separation is about to commence.

And the divorce will be messy.

But when the split is complete, their freedom of choice, the liberation of walking out, will renew their strength in themselves.

Even if Barack becomes the nominee – and I’m not convinced that will happen – these protestors will know forever that they have power they never before experienced. The power to say no constitutes freedom in the face of a society that expects you to say yes.
No means no – even in the political arena.
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15 comments:

Buzz said...

I ADORE Hillary, and I think the allotting of delegates that happened this weekend by the DNC is complete bullsh*t, but it really is just about over now. Whether or not the obnoxious O'bots have enough smarts to help Obama mend fences, I don't know, but we really do need to come together and get these republican creeps out of power. ANYTHING to avoid more of the same and let the repubs appoint more Supreme Court judges, IMHO.
Anything. Even if that means settling for Obama. He'll probably do just fine, but I still believe Hillary now and Obama later is the smarter course. We're going to need more than 8 years to straighten this country out, and I fear we've lost a golden opportunity for all of us.

carissa said...

I have no assurance that Obama will "do just fine." Can you please point me to one issue, just one, where he has taken heat? His M.O. so far is that when things get too hot for him, whatever is causing him heat is quickly jettisoned.

carissa said...

And it does no good to hold the SCOTUS over my head. I really am past that. The Dems did nothing to prevent Roberts and Alito, and the thugs now have the majority with no end in sight. The damage has already been done.

I have not indicated where my vote will go in November, but I can no longer consider myself a Democrat after the farce of the RBC meeting (in addition to many, many other things).

I plan on using the summer to re-engage with my husband and gaining back the life that I have put on hold for the past five years.

Buzz said...

Just remain extremely angry then, if that works for you. I'm unhappy about it, but I don't see any value at all in getting worked up about it at this stage. That time has passed for me. I figure the least I can do now is give the man a chance.

Besides, my other options are to not vote at all, vote for McCain or vote for Bob Barr.
Given those choices, I vote for the other guy.

Thank you for taking the time to reply!

Yahya said...

"Can you please point me to one issue, just one, where he has taken heat?"

For the past several it wasn't about the "issues" even though Obama tried talking about them consistently. It was about destroying Barack Obama as best as they can by morphing him into a radical with weird and "anti-American" friends. Barack Obama went head up against Hillary Clinton, her ex President Husband, Chelsea, the GOP, Rush Limbaugh, Fox News etc etc and still won. That's amazing if you ask me. Hopefully when the dust settles we can all come together as one and help Barack Obama beat John McCain for the good of the country.

carissa said...

yahya - For the past 16 years it's been about destroying Hillary Clinton. Can you see where I am coming from? Where have Bill, Hillary or Chelse tried to paint Barack as a radical? She kept her mouth shut and tried to stay talking about issues, really meaty discussions, if you ever attended one of her town halls. Did you attend the one in Fernley? I don't recall seeing you there, but it was packed, so I don't know if I just missed you.

The unrelenting bias against Hillary, the sexism, the language all over the blogosphere...even locally has been ridiculous and hateful.

Yeah, Buzz, I am angry, at the "leaders" of the Democratic Party who stood by silently and let this all happen. It was outrageous and overt, and nothing I ever expected to see from so-called "progressives."

carissa said...

And by "taking heat" I mean, the way Hillary did for Health Care, her Iraq vote, etc. Where had Barack ever really taken a stand on any issue that has caused him the kind of push-back that Hillary has gotten?

Cathylee said...

Senator Obama 'still won' only because he has been handed the nomination. I think the obvious vilification of Senator Clinton and the embarrassing deification of her opponent has been a real awakening to many of us. The media has been sickeningly complicit in this campaign, and it seems to have worked, as evinced by the comments of a long line of Buzz's and Yahya's of the democratic party. For those of us who have been shocked as we watched this campaign season unfold, the refrain of unity is becoming wearisome. It sometimes seems that what we are expected to do nowadays is to watch grievous events occur, witness wrongs being committed, observe unethical dealings, perceive the defamation of good people....and THEN JUST GO ON! Since when? We should just stifle our outrage when rules are bent, untruths are propounded, civility is ignored? Since when??

Yahya said...

"For the past 16 years it's been about destroying Hillary Clinton. Can you see where I am coming from?"

I totally understand she's been the target of the GOP for umpteen years but I think she ran into trouble THIS election because she voted for the war in Iraq and then didn't apologize for for her vote like John Edwards did. I think a simple apology or recognition that it was a horrible decision would of gone a long way early in the process. I don't think America wants to go through another "she voted for it before she voted against it" election. The Bosnia incident didn't help, either. Not only that.. I think Barack Obama flat out ran a better campaign from the start. Their "mapology" was brilliant causing his campaign to outsmart the Hillary Juggernaut with the Delegate earnings by racking them up early.

"Where have Bill, Hillary or Chelse tried to paint Barack as a radical? She kept her mouth shut and tried to stay talking about issues..."

Right... They kept their mouths shut when they probably should of stood up for Obama and his wife at one point. Instead, they sat back and hoped it was the final dagger. Good news, though... There's Hillary Veep buzz in the air right now. I'd support that 100%.

"Did you attend the one in Fernley? I don't recall seeing you there, but it was packed, so I don't know if I just missed you."

No... I wasn't there. I was coaching that night.

Dave said...

McCain wants to stay in Iraq. Obama and Clinton want to leave. McCain is anti-abortion, Obama and Clinton are pro-choice. McCain wants to continue the Bush economic policy. They want reform. Hillary will back Obama, so should you.

carissa said...

Where oh where have I said I would be voting for McCain?

Right... They kept their mouths shut when they probably should of stood up for Obama and his wife at one point.

What exactly are you talking about? Stood up for Obama and Michelle over WHAT? Where was Barack when all the blatant sexist remarks were going on? Where was Barack when Bill and Hillary, two long-time champions of civil rights, were smeared as racists? Where was Barack when David Schuster said Hillary was "pimping out" Chelsea?

Give me a break.

artificialsweetener said...

I too am not impressed with the SCOTUS argument - simply because it makes me wonder why I'm voting for Dems downticket? I mean, with the predicted sweeping Democratic victory this year, I shouldn't need to worry about any terrifying SC nominees getting through...right?

carissa said...

Exactly! They could've filibustered Roberts and Alito and look how they did on that? Yet, the Republicans have taken every opportunity to unapologetically filibuster or stall ANY legislation they don't like.

Buzz said...

Well, then by all means support them.
I understand your disgust, but not your strategy (or as a freshly minted republican, perhaps I should use strategery).

It's all too much like the spoiled brat who picks up his marbles and leaves when he doesn't get his way. Boo ho, but I'm sure not going to have sympathy for the sheer misery you will enduire and inflict if you install McCain and greedy scum as a result of your poor choice.

and btw, NO ONE has held the SCOTUS over your head. I'm sure done with this place.

carissa said...

I am going non partisan. At this point, I'm disgusted with both parties. My vote has to be earned, not taken for granted.